For me, at least as I understand it, the real interest of the hatchet frame is to accept 26x4 and 26x5 tires without having the legs rubbed by the frame. But for a 29x3 the KH frame is perfect. KH: g g Mad4one: S 24" x 3. According to Unicycle. M4One 20" Weight: g 24" Weight: g 26" x 2. No idea about stiffness. The only downside fo Mad4Ones is that the frames are not made to a specific size so if you were after a very tight clearance for a clean look you wont get it.
The 24" frame fits 26 inch x 2. That weight does not include the bearing holders and screws. You have to add 85g to each frame, while KH and Nimbus show the total weight of their frames. Its very weird that they state weights without them. Like unless you can ride without bearing holders and screws why would you ever list them without. To be fair, they mention the additional weight if you go to the detailed description of the frames.
Anyhow, fully agree to your point. Same for some hub descriptions: What is the point to mention weight without bolts and spacers? Your body adapts. The basic nimbus frames are so cheap, and steel that I prefer those, but to each their own… the colors are nice.
The quality of the frame is great - aluminium, rounded crown even the bearing holders are rounded too , disk brake mount on the frame itself little holders for the brake line along the frame too , and the welds are really beautiful. During riding the frame feels really solid and stiff. It is nice and light too. The standard saddle is comfortable. The tyre I have fitted is the Duro Miner Mad is proposing 3 muni frames, made of aluminum : small for 24x3 - 26x2. I bought a medium size M4O to replace my 26" Oracle, because I wanted something with a little more clearance and a real disk brake mount.
It also seemed a little more flexible when I tried manually pulling the legs apart, and squeezing them together. Not surprising since the M4O legs have an oval cross-section over their full length, which makes them thinner side-to-side compared to the Oracle legs, which are round at the top and more ovalized near the bearing holders. The Oracle design is a little better for stiffness, a little worse for clearance. Is there any reason why you would want two disc brakes, or is there any obvious reason I am missing?
